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To Black - On criticism in the workshop

From: Rodrigo Escobar Holgín

Let me tell you that you should not be discouraged by anything that others tell you. For some it is difficult to learn how fragile we can be, how delicate art is a person that starts in the development of their skills. They do not know that oak trees are cute when they are sprouting from the earth, and young palms can end up as fodder for ruminants.

Admittedly it is difficult to art criticism. Between the poles of complete silence and raw honesty is criticism that identifies, without hurting the key points that can help improve, and that helps keep the desire to continue writing.

What drives one to choose a location?

Those who choose silence may do so precisely for fear of hurting. Do not know how prepared you are the one to hear the truth of what he has seen the quiet. This may have traveled a hard road and remembers his beginnings. Prefer not to say anything to discourage, because he believes does not have the skill required to operate without causing damage.

The cost of silence becomes large. Who receive such treatment does not have guidance on how to improve your writing. Furthermore, you can imagine what he writes is not worth even a comment at least, can understand the silence and contempt.

Who chooses the naked honesty it does, in the best, because he wants to communicate clearly what it sees as key to improvement. Sometimes the truth is told with such tact that no longer applies, and communication breaks down because you lose in a cloud of tenderness. Who may choose can remember when someone wanted to say something to correct style, but he did with such delicacy that the message did not reach, then the effort had to be larger. But the cost of raw openness may be greater than the silence, because in some cases as to discourage and to abandon writing.

This is not self-evident: one can believe that he truly has potential as a writer did not discourage him anything, and even magnify the adversity. We can cite the toughness of Beethoven's musical education, the prison of Cervantes, and other horrors. We do not know is how many masterpieces have we lost without even suspected, how many geniuses have drowned in the cradle, how many gifts we have annihilated before they have time to bloom.

Someone who begins the critical work can be located in one of the poles and make an effort to move looking for the center. Sometimes it seems too lavish liberality nickname teacher. We should reserve it, not only those who mastered their art, but who dominates to such an extent that it is able to guide others in it through a critical to keep your desire to write and they indicate a path of excellence without destroying its momentum.

Exercising criticism thus requires not only then with a capacity of understanding and appreciation of texts, but also an ancient name whose capacity would have to revamp to regain its original sense : compassion. No pity, as that word is understood today, but something much more difficult and forgotten: the ability to put yourself in someone else's place and imagine what might be feeling.

In a workshop, that skill development and exercise, is crucial not only to keep the creative capacity of its members, but also the workplace, the community atmosphere.

May this always remind ourselves in our workshop and we practiced.

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The significance of our Castilian

By: Constanza Botero Lema


Like all Latin American countries, Colombia suffers from a disease that we call "linguistic uprooting." And miss the country in exile and miss our pre-Columbian languages, which they knew to name the birds, plants, utensils and American feelings. "The most humiliating of Conquest," writes William Ospina somewhere, was that we had to learn to sing and pray in the language of the enemy. "

If we consider that language is the expression of thought is easy to imagine the confusion that had to suffer the native Americans when he wanted to express thoughts in a foreign language and translated into Castilian American feelings.

Everything for him was so confusing, and could mean the same way as it had always done, when language, culture and atmosphere were a harmonious complement. Everything was harder for him to work, talk, have fun, feel-. And maybe it still is, and for the same reason, for us.

What kind of communication is established at the Conquest? Indian barely had time to think, reflect, and there was no communication, or if there was very poor, but instead were born all the feelings that emerge when we lack it, misunderstanding, hatred, selfishness ... Hatred of foreigners and misunderstanding with a neighbor.

representation purely verbal mental-operation-that the Indian the reality was it became very confusing. Their needs and interests are distorted and it was difficult even to keep relationships amicably. Maintaining a two-way relationship between mind and speech was impossible, and this is one reason why the word "dialog is too big for us." We all know and agree on what our basic needs and concerns but when discussing the solutions we engage in pointless discussions. It's like we speak different languages. Or if you do not think we knew in Castilian. Maybe he is right when he says Antonio Caballero in Latin America there have been thinkers because here the noise does not let us discern the meaning.

In Colombia, the picture is complicated with other stressors: the exclusion of political and economic participation of large sectors of society, lack of autonomy of the nation because of foreign interference, lack of credibility suffered by our leaders, and armed groups multiplied deliriously our social problems.

What to do in a situation like this?, Many wonder who truly want to save and save all the chaos. There are views that point to solve the problem of the best and that's the hope of all Colombians. But it is clear that whatever the solution, general education and language in particular will have to be taken into account. Do not forget that it is through the language that a person occupies a social role (MAK Halliday, 1972) and that "language allows conclusions on the structure of society." (William Labov, 1971).

If we accept that one of the causes of the fragility of our social structure lies in the weakness of their communication channels, then it is relevant to know the functions of language. Remember what those on the criterion of two prominent linguists.

Halliday recognizes four functions:

1. The language should express logical relations (such as cause and effect.)
2. Express our feelings, desires, needs, trials ...
3. Used to interpret our experiences.
4. Relate the three above functions with the social context. Larry E.

Smith (1983) speaks of the negotiation of meaning from what he called the five senses of language:

1. The construction of identity, that is, the contribution of language to knowledge of ourselves.
2. Learn more about the party for more effective communication.
3. Election of the speech to be used depending on the relationship of the interlocutors.
4. The role of situation social adjustment of our management discourse.
5. The speaker's intention (to persuade, urge, entice, encourage and mediate, among others).

(And as in all social classifications mentioned, let's, before closing, a quick look at our reality. On the one hand, we have a reality that overwhelms us with depressing economic indicators, alarming crime statistics and a long history of hatred. On the other hand, there is a reality that gives us hope: a good stock of human and natural resources, awareness of the crisis-something that we had for 20 years, and the widespread and growing rejection of violence, come wherever it comes).

A society and governments do their part to straighten their socio-economic indices. For teachers, improve the functions of language, this should be an imperative in the curricula of Castilian. Perhaps then we can join a new language and thought, educate young people know their environment and naming ideas, men and women capable of building a real country, and leaders who can interact in scenarios where all participate.

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Marie Sklodowska Curie

was in a meeting with the workshop group as Silvio, the chubby fellow simpaticón began to grind, in a mortar, two or three grams of red pepper to enhance the flavor of the sausages, and I remembered Madame Curie in her laboratory shed, spraying tons of pitchblende to study the uranium rays had discovered Antoine Henri Becquerel in 1896. He discovered that uranium emitted invisible rays of unknown nature, similar to X-rays he had discovered Wilhelm Roentgen in 1895.

By studying the phenomenon, Marie was baptized with the name of radioactivity, a term of his own, but the nature of radiation and its origin remained a mystery. This was the theme you chose as your thesis for a doctorate in chemistry.

The point that I find most relevant is his tenacity Marie Curie, especially considering that their living conditions were deplorable. This obstinate character kept him working even in health situations of extreme gravity.

His lab was a miserable place, where, during the winter the temperature dropped to six degrees in the summer was unbearable for the greenhouse effect. In this miserable hangar Lhomond street in Paris, for two years with her husband Pierre, suffered all the hardships, sweats and setbacks to note that there was a radioactive element uranium, and found in July 1898 polonium, the name given in honor of his beloved homeland, and then, in December of that year, the radio.

Once these findings were published in Academy of Sciences, the news stunned scientists, who demanded to see the polonium and radium in its pure state. The radio no one had seen, so require them to demonstrate. With infinite patience and, after forty-five months to process tons of pitchblende , finally managed to separate a tenth of a gram of radium, Marie determined its atomic weight. Not yet know that with this small piece of mineral, blue glow that shone in a box had been opened the atomic age.

To get an idea of \u200b\u200bthe difficulty and cost of it enough to know that for a gram of pure radium is necessary to process four tons of raw ore, pitchblende, with eight hundred tons of water Two hundred tonnes chemicals and consume the equivalent of one hundred tons of oil into energy.

with her husband Pierre Curie demonstrated important discovery that the radioactivity is not a chemical reaction, but is a property of the element, namely the atom. Marie Curie was the first to use the term "radioactive" to describe the elements that give off radiations as their nuclei break down.

Yet - write Marie, after - in that we shed the best and happiest years of our life, devoted to work. Sometimes I spend all day beating a boiling mass with a shaker of iron almost as big as myself. When night was tired of fatigue. However, we produced great joy to enter at night in our workshop, when we saw everywhere the luminous silhouettes of the bottles and capsules containing our products.

I find admirable when resigned to take advantage of the discovery material: patented no nothing going for it, and yes unreserved public all research findings and the preparation of radio procedures. Its north was always the good of humanity.

Sabato said a word about Marie Curie which, recognizing, of course the enormous value of their work did not admit to it at all the label of genius: The reason is that Marie Curie is like a hypothetical rabbit hunter who goes out and finds a dinosaur. Genius is one who can see and prove that the apple (say) that falls and the moon that are the same event in nature.

Sino was genius, the fact is he learned to read and write before age five. He was the youngest of five brothers who coddled, encouraged and planted in her the love of knowledge, which would be lasting for life. At that time, Poland was under Russian rule, when the inspectors arrived to supervise the education given at school, Marja went to sing the Russian national anthem, which they had no choice but to accept that if the smallest students had memorized the song, therefore, all the others they had to know.

Marja completed his undergraduate studies in 1882, the age of fifteen, and the outstanding notes. In those years in Poland and in many countries, women had higher education. His family also had sufficient economic solvency to allow him to study in London, Berlin or Paris. Therefore agreed to work as a governess in a wealthy family. Bronia pact with her older sister, she would continue to work, so that Bronia could study medicine in Paris, until conditions improve and to enable Marja continue their studies. It took several years.

Marie arrived in Paris two years after the Universal Exhibition 1889. Parisians were still perplexed by the new scientific evidence presented, as the first machine Bollée multiplier, the first automobile with internal combustion engine and four wheels, bicycle tires, brakes and chain. Eiffel Tower , provisional entry to the exhibition, which was visible from all parts of the city, and the broad avenues with electric lighting, clipping had the Parisians. None of this mattered and only level focused on studies and improve their French. He enrolled in physics at the Sorbonne , then Mathematics. In three years, completed the two degrees and graduated with top grades.

were years of great austerity, if you have money to buy coal and damp cold, I had to eat. His daughter Eve says: came to spend weeks without taking other food that tea and bread and butter. When I wanted to celebrate something bought a couple of eggs, or a chocolate bar or some fruit. To save coal lit heater, and spent hours and hours writing numbers and equations without just learned that his fingers were numb and his shoulders shaking with cold.

In 1911, Swedish Academy recognized him all his contributions to science, and gave him the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for discovering the elements polonium and radium and research on the nature and behavior of these elements, being the first person, and for over fifty years, in obtaining this award twice. Already in 1903, with her husband and Henry Becquerel, had given the Nobel Prize in Physics for the discovery of spontaneous radioactivity and contributions on the phenomenon.

always tried to be helpful, and when it starts the Great War in 1914, has two treasures to watch: her daughters, Irene and Eve, and a gram of radium protected in a capsule of 20 kilos of lead. Without hesitation, he took a train to Bordeaux and deposited in a bank. Ten days later, conscious, against all odds of his colleagues, that the war would be long, and the use of X-rays to locate bullets, shrapnel and broken scale would More broadly, he commanded a team of experts in radiographic techniques. Again, it was found in one of the most intense periods of work all his life. Managed to operate more than two hundred mobile radiological, invention of his own, being an invaluable contribution to the care of war wounded.

In 1921, he first visited the United States. Always outside all praise and public recognition accepted, after several negative, the invitation offered to convince Missy journalist that American women had together hundred thousand dollars, that is, the value of a gram of radium for Marie Curie donárselos. The radius is one hundred thousand times greater than gold. In this first official visit to the United States said the following words: However, we must not forget that when radio was discovered no one knew it would be useful in hospitals. It was a work of pure science. And is this a proof that scientific work should not be considered from the standpoint of immediate utility. We must do what he is in himself, by the beauty of science, then there is always the possibility of scientific discovery, as has happened with the radio, it becomes a benefit for humanity.

dies July 4, 1934. Two days later, only the company of relatives, friends and colleagues of his scientific work, Madame Curie was buried in the cemetery in Sceaux. say their hands burned by the radio, stood out against the white cloth that covered them .

Since 1995, his remains rest in the Pantheon in Paris with her husband Pierre and writer Victor Hugo, the first woman to be buried in this monument. We read in his epitaph: Valiente female scientist, humanist and tenacious, with the discovery of radium, the researcher of Polish origin, opened the field of nuclear physics and cancer therapy. Work that would cost lives.

Between the moment of happiness that was Silvio, I saw in his eyes, to improve the taste of sausage with bad ground pepper, and the life of Marie Curie devoted to pure science, there are endless ways to add meaning to our lives.

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July 2009

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THE MEANING OF THE SPEED OF THE TONGUE

BY: PIEDAD VILLEGAS

400 BC Greece floor mosaics that frame draw borders with geometric designs, multicolored animals is playing move with the shadows of the columns that surround the courtyard from one of the corridors is he, looking at them, bemused. In his hand is a wonderful clay vase just drawn that fill with water. Enjoys eating fresh. Also bring a fruit tray placed on a table covered with silk cloth. Close your eyes and feel the smell of grapes and olives, while his fingers perceived softness of silk, that move with the breeze touch your skin. In the peaceful courtyard to hear the sound reaches of the river water out and steps away. Has just begun the morning, open your eyes again. Aristotle thought, just to see, taste, smell, touch and hear, in a moment. He gets up to go to the Lycee, all his words and human actions revolve around the 5 senses.

Germany seventeenth century cloister Platforms draw paths by which students come and go, from the upstairs window, sometimes they are run as small streams and specific times, seem to torrents of water flowing rapidly. Watching them through the glass, he is, absorbed, while playing to make bombs with smoke pipe just suck. In the study filled with books and papers, he suddenly felt overwhelmed by the smell of snuff and ink, and opened the window. The autumn wind, whipping the curtains tightly cover your face, feel the hardness of the material heavy enough to hear the murmur of voices and rough steps, that outside the cloister walk. Just started in the morning, messy hair is accommodated through the curtain, and shakes the ash that fell on his vest. Immanuel think, just to see, taste, smell, touch and hear, in a moment. It has to go for the chair on the 5 senses Aristotle.

nineteenth century Switzerland Trails draw forest framed by stone paths and wildflowers, which rows are lost behind the trees. In the trunk that serves as a bench, and looking far fade the colors in the distance, is the, lost, focusing on their thoughts on the senses. His hands play to break into small pieces a dry leaf, birds sing in sync every so often, and while trying to assemble the melody that make up the various trills, the strong smell of earth penetrates to the temples. Start a blade of grass long and takes a mouth, his teeth biting the stem and the sap tastes bitter to exhaustion. The sun goes down and the cold spring begins to feel, Rudolf pulling the blade rises and settles the scarf around your neck, think to see, smell, taste, hear and touch was just an outline of the sensory capabilities of humans. Think also, heat, life, movement, speech, thought, self and the balance are other ways to be developed. Today this thought sleep, tomorrow will write his lecture on the 12 senses.

Year 2009 America-Africa-Europe-Asia or Oceania, motorways City drawn with the lights of the car and notices the speed it carries. Inside the car, he goes at 100 miles per hour. Everything passes light while driving sit still, his hands numb because they cling to the helm, is absorbed, keeping their attention in the car going forward, no thought appears while driving, the smell of gasoline and or sit, and chewing gum carried in the mouth does not know anything, the hum of the engines of motorcycles and cars around you, hang anywhere in your brain where you are, from time to listen, tune to any station, and no then he wants to come, the car takes him, he let go and all that perceives is speed.

Speed, that it takes years of history have passed since Aristotle, I felt the vibe in 5 sensory experiences through which we carry out the human longing. Speed, that also takes the opportunity to learn, when in times of Immanuel Kant's psychology and philosophy ceased to be accommodated their bases, on the same theory of the five senses, forget the ability of many centuries have passed, for let sleeping these ideas, later as Sleeping Beauty have to wake up and give money to renew critical to the thoughts of the past.

The psychology lost sequence from the images that occurred on the patio tile drawn to the highway with a single broken white line drawing. Hung in the polarity of the fixed idea that they are the 5 senses, which is played over and over again to the same speed, "is the world's old age" as a sentence Virilio.

today without receiving the call intelligent intuition sixth sense and without the reflection of the natural wisdom that is common sense, modern psychology is still hosting the research and contributions to the study of the 12 senses, Rudolf Steiner developed into a historical moment in which their spirituality East and West its materialist thought, were, be seduced, and simultaneously resisted, but always amazed, even an obsession or rejection in all possible areas.

An individual search and sensational, seeks to find speed in the substance of his own humanity, and all being served with a desire to uncover the mysteries quickly myself. As if it were a collective outreach in the labs scientists publish newsletters with studies on the senses, and give a dimension of what one day will find that we are by the skills demonstrated. Only the sense of touch is the most amazing treatise written by Ashley Montagu, and a philosopher as John Berger publishes a book of only essays on "The sense of sight."

Across the poets express the uncertainty and certainty of feeling: is the human being at the edge and center, struggling desperately between polarities, between salt and sweet, the illumination and blindness, among the scent of sandalwood and the smell of shit, when at the same time receives the blow and caress, and suffers from the inevitable noise of the modern world, while listening to symphonies, timeless.

Meanwhile, doctors believe heal the disorders of the organs of the senses with eye drops, creams, pills and inhalers for the nose, ears, eyes, skin and taste buds, psychologists and teachers insist on evaluating the way we perceive the world from the theory of the 5 senses, "... that is for bodies and soul for the body ..." According to Aristotle, and magazines and newspapers in small reviews, lists the senses with windows against the palace gates, windows and entrances that is human.

Human beings, not daring to perceive and nothing but the lurking death, closes the access roads and only dare to discover the no sense of speed, "form of ecstasy the technical revolution has given to man" by Kundera, man, no longer dares to explore the 5 senses of Aristotle, or the 12 of Steiner, which he classified into three groups, nor dare to invent new, as a way to memory or a sense for eternity, because death is meaningless, as life is yours.

And yet "is in the senses where knowledge begins, where the soul thinks and thinks," as Kant would say maybe. We share certain physical and psychic senses with rocks, plants and animals, but with the same sense, or some, or others have the possibility traveling the roads that we humans reach the first group, the 4 physical senses according to Steiner, are external senses, related to the outside world with our physical body and vital

The sense of touch, you can live no other way unless the border without letting us know where we end and the start of the world around us, can grow up to embrace the infinite, or make us feel desolate, a physical sense as basic as if you can not depress its full extent the plant, animal and man to convert in inert forms.

The direction of movement, this gesture is to move sideways, up and down, forward and backward, to discover that we are free and we can transfer limits, it is also so physical that unless we reach its full potential to reduce disability.

sense of balance, is the sense of tranquility, physically we have a center of gravity that makes us present to ourselves as well to be alive, do not fluctuate lost in uncontrollable, is not to be dis-brought is to be in me and not between contents.

The meaning of life is the feeling of harmony which is nothing else but I agree, a basic trust in my own existence, without washers, is physical and real, I can share with the plant, with the stone and the animal, it is a fact that we are, regardless of the questions, only to the extent that they appear to go up and when the meaning of life becomes happiness, but it may not ever develop beings and become distrustful and dissatisfied, unhappy, but we will never be equal to the stone, plant or animal because sooner or later questions will appear for us.

The second group is the 4-way mood, which also physical and relate to the feelings and emotions, are associated with soul

Aristotle said, "The soul is the body as sight to the national vision," the sense of sight is a sense of body and soul, because you see, is to move the eyes, which is not the same as looking at it is to watch over, observe, describe, that is to go beyond, searching, until reveal, which is not the same as revealing, which is not missed, nor the same dream, which is seen asleep.

the body and the soul also is the taste, you know, if you do not know, I'm starving, do not feed me, so birth when shows the first drop of milk and enjoyed the round world where knowledge is collected, hence learn all about love and indifference, on the taste and beauty, this source of wisdom to learn to live and die.

The sense of smell, which is more than just smell, it is also physical and mental, is the sense to recognize, is to follow a trail, pick up a signal to select or rule, is breathing, take the momentum that brings the world to exchange inhalation, to welcome or not.

The sense of warmth is also physical and mental, is more than feel alive or feel the skin, is an experience of light and joy of the heat or the darkness and loneliness that transmits the cold, is euphoria or impersonality, is exaggeration or parsimony is to radiate warmth or coolness.

The last group of the 4 spiritual senses, which are also physical, and relate to an inner need that human beings have re-linked with a sensed world, unspeakable, which is not visible, however it is perceived and beyond the limits of the soul. Maybe there will be a time of history in ways that are called divine, cosmic or supersensible, maybe ... when humans raise our status up to other powers or name God is easier and not a sensitive issue:

's hearing, which is to listen, or going to feel, because it evokes and thrill to hear and suffer and move, or go beyond the physical, transfer the ear and reach places unexplained, or go where it opens an interior space, which even seems to us understand something, not no words yet invented to name is to be ono go numb or dull.

The sense of the word is the truth or lying, to appoint or to be silent or distort the world, to confuse or clarify the express meaning, to know that while the act verbs, adjectives and nouns feel think, together palpitate in the gesture, tone and voice of each letter.

The sense of thought that is the sense of the interconnectedness of all what exists and what happens, sums up the human activity in the inspiration or the lack of brightness in the ideas, the reflection is coherent or disconnected from life in pictures or words.

And the sense of self of others, the ability to perceive the other, reading their characteristics within me, to recognize, validate, to guess, something so intimate, it is intuition and experience that which is called essence that translates to knowing or not who is the other when I meet him.

Year 2015 - Any place on planet earth - The park is crowded, from the windows of the spa, is hard to see the place in which interlocking wooden and iron bridges, with terraces children run and play wet, with playful streams that spring from the floor. On pallets near them, all can be acrobats, musicians, theater people and spectators. The areas planted with flowers where the old walking across the field, combined with open spaces, with accumulation of sand and stone, which are available for everyone to move and explore with their senses. Can see both on the courts to teens in cliques singing hugging, kissing, while the food stalls, sitting at tables and benches, young people and adults share songs, words and wine.

Immersed in the natural stone pool, is he, absorbed, watching them through glass. The scents of lavender, cinnamon and mandarin, come in small waves, marked by fresh and vibrant sounds of the moving metal and glass located in different sites of the spa. The water is warm and the jets on the walls, they massage your legs. Think it is now possible to explore the senses, "... the ultimate realization of their capacity," as Aristotle would say, the same sensory capacity in the past, was suppressed for being the origin of sin. Move your eyes to people like him, from the pool are perceiving the world, outside and inside. Sale of water will be served a fruit tea and drink it sits in a padded armchair with cushions, facing the large window.

The window draws a big picture of the city that moves to the rhythm of the sense of speed, this movement is going forward, this movement that can block the experience sense: the source of creativity, the same movement that is capable of surpassing even the speed excessive or even excruciating slowness.

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By: Isabel Prado

Speaking of our language and more precisely the way how we treat, I invite you to reflect, if not already done so, on the following situations:

clinic. Doctor to patient after an inaudible greeting and not a glance from you: What do you have? Have you come to have an abortion?

Parking at the mall. Lady! We have a very good promotion today. I wash the car, I wax, I hope. All for $ 25,000. So yes?

At the entrance of a warehouse. Follow dear heart. I love what it offers almost above the pedestrian.

Classroom . Teacher: You said that at last there was no task.

I could go where I felt attacked. It's my problem and I will try to overcome it.

with the doctor but not a doctor * doctor, unless you have a Ph.D., I dared to say: I do not like voceen me and so I told my students . The answer was the same: we are in the Valley, we vallunos and here we treat well. (Vallunos those of Valledupar, some say, we are vallecaucanos).

With all due respect to those who do not share my feelings, do not think this is a good reason. So, if customary old friends or family but not in cases that I quoted as I think it's about education and manners of what I'm talking about, does not bother me much how I dealt with in a or in a store parking lot but how do some guilds whose studies suggest that they are better and take the right with the VOS, of 'pordebajear' whom they consider have not gone through the same university.

addition to feel superior by a knowledge that the other does not, how about aggression and all that implies by a physician, assuming that the patient will abort when actually goes by a fall in moto?

Of the students I can say in its favor that are in the process of training (which does not feel alluded to because they know them all) and it is assumed that gradually find that thin, thin thread that separates his arrogance or ignorance of respect for a person who is a figure of authority.

Cantinflas As I said: 'We are all equal but some are more equal than others' and to tie I add that "the monkey climbs known to stick '. I do not philosophize much less but we all know, I again believe me, that if certain rules are met can we address how we want to treat you while our teacher-director, from doctor to doctor Aljure of you, because we have learned doing so, the honorable and smiling and Leonor the young Jesus David takes us to worlds with his words incredible. Back and forth as they weigh the knowledge, practices, charges and / or years.

* SAR says that doctors can call them and do not have the title.